The Law To Know

Module 1

The listening mind: why listening is hard, and what a lawyer is listening for

Almost everything a lawyer does depends on what other people say: a client’s account, a witness’s recollection, an opponent’s position, a judge’s question, a colleague’s concern. Yet lawyers are trained to talk, to argue, to analyse and to answer, and most receive little or no training in the first skill on which all the others depend, which is to hear accurately what has been said, and what has not. The result is predictable. Clients are interrupted within seconds and leave feeling unheard. Witnesses are led to say what the interviewer expects. Key facts are missed because the lawyer had already decided what the case was about. This course teaches the psychology and technique of listening and interviewing, using what research has found about attention, memory, questioning and judgement, and it is honest about what the research does not support. This first module explains why listening is hard (our attention is limited, our minds jump to conclusions and we listen in order to reply), what a lawyer should be listening for and the stance that makes good listening possible. It is the base for the rest of the course, and it complements The Client Conversation, which covers the first client meeting itself, and Across the Table, which covers listening in negotiation. All the people are invented.

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By the end of this module you can

  • Explain why listening is hard.
  • Recognise the ladder of inference and bias.
  • Know what to listen for.
  • Understand the cost of interrupting.
  • Adopt a listening stance.

Part 1. The lecture

Why listening is hard

ObstacleWhat happensIn legal work
Limited attention and working memoryWe can hold only a few things in mind at once, and attention drifts; speech comes slower than we can think, so the mind wandersA long client account is partly missed, and the lawyer fills the gaps from what they expect.
Listening to replyWhile the other person speaks, we prepare what we will sayThe lawyer plans the advice before the client has finished the facts.
Jumping to a categoryWe match what we hear to a familiar type of case and stop listening for what is different‘This is a classic breach of contract’, and the unusual feature that matters is missed.
EmotionAnger, anxiety or boredom narrows what we take inA hostile witness or a rambling client is heard less well.
Status and fatigueSenior people listen less to juniors, and tired people listen less to anyoneA junior’s observation is dismissed, and a late-day client gets half the attention.
Interruptions and devicesPhones, email and notes compete for attentionThe lawyer who is typing is not listening.
Assuming we have understoodWe believe that we have heard what was meantMisunderstandings that surface months later.

None of these is a character flaw. They are features of ordinary minds, and good listening is a set of habits that work against them.

The ladder of inference

A useful picture, from the work of the organisational psychologist Chris Argyris, is that we climb a ‘ladder’ from what we observe to what we conclude, very fast and mostly without noticing. We take in only part of what is said (selecting), give it a meaning (interpreting), draw a conclusion, form a belief and then act on it. Afterwards the belief shapes what we notice next. By the time we speak, we may be several rungs above the original words.

RungExample
What was said‘I signed it, but I never really read it.’
What I selected‘He signed it.’ (I stopped hearing at ‘signed’.)
The meaning I gave it‘He is bound by it.’
The conclusion‘He has no defence.’
The belief and action‘I will tell him to settle.’ and I stop asking about the circumstances of signing.
  • Climb down. When you notice a conclusion forming, ask: what exactly did they say? What did I add? What else could it mean?
  • Ask, do not assume. ‘When you say you did not really read it, what do you mean?’
  • Check your inference aloud. ‘Let me check that I have understood. You signed it without reading it. Is that right?’ This gives them the chance to correct you.
  • Separate observation from interpretation in your notes: what was said (in their words) on one side, and what you think it means on the other.

Bias in what we hear

BiasHow it worksA remedy
Confirmation biasWe notice what fits our first idea of the case and discount what does notAsk yourself, ‘What would I expect to hear if I were wrong?’ and listen for it.
AnchoringThe first piece of information sets a reference that later information is judged againstHold the first impression lightly, and note it as a hypothesis.
Primacy and recencyWe remember the beginning and the end bestTake notes throughout, and summarise the middle.
Halo and hornsA good (or bad) impression of the person colours how we hear everythingWeigh the content, not the likeability.
SimilarityWe understand and credit those like us more easilyTake extra care with people whose background, language or style differs from yours.
StereotypingA group label stands in for the individualListen for the person. See Cross-Cultural Communication.
Hindsight and outcome biasOnce we know how a story ended, it seems to have been obviousAsk what the person knew at the time.

Knowing about bias does not cure it. What helps is a method: slowing down, writing down hypotheses, asking open questions and checking understanding.

What a lawyer is listening for

  • Facts: who, what, when, where, how, and how the person knows (first-hand, or told by someone else).
  • Sequence and gaps: the order of events, and where the story jumps.
  • The person’s own words: the terms they use for things, which may differ from the legal terms.
  • Feelings: worry, anger, shame, loyalty. They are data about what matters and what is hard to say, and often about what the client really wants.
  • Interests and goals: what the person wants to achieve, which is not always what they ask for. A client who asks for a lawsuit may want an apology, or to protect a relationship.
  • Constraints and fears: money, time, reputation, family, immigration status, the other side’s power.
  • What is not said: the thing they skip, the person they do not mention, the question they answer with another question.
  • Inconsistencies and uncertainty: where the person says ‘I think’, ‘maybe’ or ‘I cannot remember’, and where the account changes.
  • Documents and other sources they mention, and who else knows.

Two kinds of listening

Listening for information (what happened?) and listening for understanding (what does it mean to the person, and what do they need?). Lawyers are trained in the first. The best also do the second, and it often produces the facts that the first alone does not reach.

The cost of interrupting

  • People are interrupted very early. Studies of consultations in medicine, and common experience in law, show that professionals often interrupt a person within the first seconds of an account, and that people who are allowed to finish usually take less time than expected, and give more of what matters.
  • An interruption steers the account. The person talks about what you asked, and not what they came to say. The important thing may never come out.
  • It signals status and impatience, and teaches the person to be brief and guarded.
  • In the first telling, let people finish. Take notes, show that you are listening and ask your questions afterwards.
  • There are good reasons to interrupt, such as a safety issue, a person who cannot stop in distress or a very long digression. Do it gently, and return to the point: ‘May I stop you there for a moment? I want to be sure that I have the first part right.’

The listening stance

  1. Prepare. Know what you need to find out, but be ready to hear something else. Clear your desk and your mind, and turn off notifications.
  2. Be curious. Treat the account as something to understand and not as a problem to be solved yet. Delay your advice.
  3. Be present. Face the person, keep your attention on them and not on the screen.
  4. Be humble. You do not know what happened. They do.
  5. Be patient with silence. See Module 2.
  6. Be honest about your limits. If you did not follow something, say so.
  7. Be respectful. Everyone, from a nervous client to an opponent’s witness, deserves to be heard.

Listening is not passive. It is hard work that shows in your questions, your summaries and the things that you remember. The next module turns the stance into technique.

Part 2. Lab: Climb Down the Ladder

Choose the best response in each situation.

Situation 1 of 3

A client says, ‘I signed the lease, but I never really read the clause about the deposit.’ You immediately think, ‘He is stuck with it.’

What is the best next step?

Part 3. Lab: What Was Said?

Sort each statement by whether it is something said, an inference or a conclusion.

Situation 1 of 6

“She said, ‘I did not see him leave.’”

Where does this belong?

Part 4. Lab: Spot the Habit

Click the habits that get in the way of listening.

What a lawyer does in an interview

Click every sentence that causes a problem, then press Check. There may be 3 problems, and some sentences are fine.

Part 5. Check your understanding

Ten questions drawn from a larger pool. Sign in to have your score saved towards your certificate.

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Here is what you can do now, and where the course goes next

Module 1 gave you

  • Explain why listening is hard.
  • Recognise the ladder of inference and bias.
  • Know what to listen for.
  • Understand the cost of interrupting.
  • Adopt a listening stance.

Next, 6 more modules and a capstone

  1. Module 2: Active listening: attending, silence, reflecting and summarisingYou will learn to Attend and use silence.
  2. Module 3: Memory and the cognitive interview: how people remember, and how to help themYou will learn to understand memory as reconstruction.
  3. Module 4: The art of questions: open, probing, closed and leading, and how to sequence themYou will learn to know the kinds of question and their effects.
  4. Module 5: Weighing what you hear: lie detection, body language, NLP and what actually helpsYou will learn to know what research says about detecting lies.
  5. Module 6: Interviewing in practice: clients, witnesses, experts and hostile people, and the rules and ethics
  6. Module 7: Writing questions and reading between the lines: emails, forms, statements and what is not said
  7. Capstone: Capstone: the Brindle Boatworks fire

Each module has its own practice labs and a graded quiz, and a Certificate of Completion follows when you pass them all. The whole course is $15 once, or included in an All-Access Membership.

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General education on listening and interviewing, using invented people, firms and events. It states psychological research in broad terms and is not a substitute for specialist training, and it is not legal advice. Rules on interviewing, contact with witnesses and represented persons, recording and the interviewing of suspects and vulnerable people differ between countries and change: check the rules that apply to you and take advice.

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